the oracle tell neo that he would know if he is true, that knowing is knowing...

[shavonne h]

...love. describe these as qualia? in philosophy there is a question of qualia. it is a feeling that can only be known by an experience, but can never be described such that another would know it. morpheus keeps repeating that the matrix is something you have to experience for yourself.

[Don H]

I once had such an experience.

Several years ago I had an unusual experience concerning an uncle, a distant relative who lived over a thousand miles away.

While driving my car I suddenly felt the unmistakable presence of this relative that I hardly even knew. He was more like someone I had heard about than someone I knew. It was very strange; it felt as though I was momentarily lifted right out of my physical body. I seemed to be suspended somehow beyond space and time, bathed in a love so intense It felt like I could have just disappear into it at any moment if It would have let me. It only lasted for a few seconds, but it seemed to last forever at the same time. I realize how crazy this must sound. The experience was so strong that at first I was afraid I was loosing my grip on reality. I finally managed to chalk it up to an over active imagination.

Three days later I got a call from my aunt telling me that this uncle we are talking about had gone into a coma and died the day I had the experience. It felt like ice water had been poured down my back when she told me this. I had lost any real ideas of God or faith and had become somewhat of an atheist. Needless to say this experience caused me to rethink some of the conclusions I had come to.

I feel blessed to now understand that even in our darkest confusion something loves us so much that it went out of its way to assist me and bring me back to a state of absolute certainty about Gods love for us.
During the experience it seemed like there was a vast amount of information that I was somehow allowed access to. One thing that I came away from this experience understanding beyond any shadow of a doubt was that any Idea that God is unhappy with us or would judge or allow us to be punished for any reason is simply impossible.

I can’t explain the love I felt with words. They simply don’t make words big enough or complete enough to do this. The only way I can begin to convey this love to you is to say that there was simply nothing else there. Nothing but love. No hint of judgment, no displeasure of any sort. It is as though God sees us as being as perfect as we were the day we were created. It is only in our confused idea of ourselves that we seem to have changed.

I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck. Love and blessings.

Your brother don

[drgirishkumarts]

Greek Philosophy is much closer to Indian Philosophy more than what is commonly thought. The real distinction between knowledge as intellectual and cognitive, and knowledge as experiential is well established in Indian Epistemology. Experiantial knowledge is not demonstrable, it has to be experienced and that is it. Only cognitive and intellectual knowledge is demonstrable and can be taught to some one.

Love is such a thing, which can not be demonstrated. It is experienced by the person who is in ove and that is all. No one else is going to understand it.